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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.09.20 10:47:00 -
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Discuss.
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.09.20 11:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Kyoto Rose
Way to bring back the lottery. :)
Except for the part where you would be able to pick your resulting BPO based upon your initial BPC.
And Sheriff's right. It'd be in the neighborhood of 1% or below.
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.09.20 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: Amarria Black on 20/09/2007 14:01:47
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Amarria Black
Discuss.
A bad idea. This is just the return of the BPO lottery in a barely different form, and would negate the whole point of invention.
A (very) small chance of a 50- or 100-run BPC would be sufficient jackpot tbh.
Even better would be the (very, very) small chance to invent something unique, something like (but maybe not quite as powerful as) an officer item. How cool would it be to have something named after you? And once you've invented it, you're the only one who can do a unique version of that item, with a merely very small chance of getting more runs of that item in future. That would be a much more interesting jackpot than just getting a money-fountain IMO.
I like this idea. I'll take a rack of Chribba's Strip Miners (+20% yield to veldspar).
I originally posed this idea with the thought in mind that one run in, say, ten thousand would yield better results. A high run BPC would be one option. A one-shot faction mod (based upon your character standings?) would be another one. A BPO would be a third. Possibly all three in varying amounts, with a BPO being the most coveted and most rare.
I like the way you think. Do you have any thoughts on how to break up the T2 BPO cartels? B/c invention's clearly not cutting it ATM. It's like whizzing on a forest fire.
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.09.20 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Really you think there are still T2 cartels? And what are the sign of the activity of the cartels?
Usually the sign is inflated price, but inflated price would attract inventors in swarm, so what it is?
Not T2 cartels in the original sense of the word. I'm talking about the multiple T2 BPO holders who either got theirs for little to no cost or long ago paid theirs off, and who are willing to make slim profits over time by keeping prices at or below the threshold of profitability when the same object is created via invention. I'm talking about the permanent and nigh-unbreakable market dominance of someone who has a T2 BPO in their hangar.
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.09.20 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: Trask Kilraen
Well, one option would be to permit invention using T2 BPC's to result in a T2 BPO. But chance of success would have to be MUCH lower.
Maybe some like T2 BPC + need to use something like 10x the number of Data Cores, and reduce chance of success significantly. Maybe require a skill of 5 in each engineering area to attempt. Or something.
This is another good idea. T2 BPC + research = slim chance of T2 BPO. Perhaps require some sort of rare and/or disgustingly expensive decoder + an asston of datacores.
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.09.20 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Alrich
NOOOOOO!!!!
do not ad more t2 bpo's!
better to hava a chanse at a higher run bpc.
a 100 run bpc (for a ship) is a much better option in my eyes than a bpo.
A good quantity of the opposition to this idea seems centered on the idea of seeding more T2 BPOs. T3 is on the horizon. Assuming the progression is linear, inventing T3 will require a T2 BPO. Should this be limited to only current T2 BPO holders?
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2007.09.20 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Jimi Tetro
Originally by: Amarria Black
. I'm talking about the permanent and nigh-unbreakable market dominance of someone who has a T2 BPO in their hangar.
A producer with a single t2 bpo has nil market dominance, the volume they can build is insignificant in the bigger picture.
i.e. a previously very lucrative bpo was the cap recharger II, now a single bpo can produce ~25-35 units in a day depending on skills/research and is totally insignificant to the total sales of that unit per day across the universe.
Yet said person producing from a BPO can accept a lower profit margin and undercut base cost for an inventor and still turn a profit. This is the underlying problem: an inventor can never compete with a T2 BPO holder who is willing to cut price to near base cost.
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